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Quare talis Big Editi Opera Israel in gentibus US Presidential
By James KitfieldVIII MMXI Dec, 10:26 AM ET VII
Reipublicae candidates moliuntur amor erga Israel ostendant, tamen suus 'iustus magis de Judaica voteBarack Obama primus minister occurrit Benjamin Netanyahu Israël ad Nationes Unitas in September MMXI / Reuters
In praesidentiale American politicis inuoluunt te in Israël est vexillum brainer nulla. Interest enim virum sortiti corpora sustentant Israel, American Jewish electorum, magna orci auctor donationibus, et suffragium in potentia LIBRO battleground key ut dicit Florus, diam et ante. Israel fidelitatem lusus ex parte cum status evangelici Christiani back theologiae Judaicae, et qui potest facere ut res in primo statu, Iowa censentium et elit. Test for litmus tergum fortis Israel veluti coetus in validus VESTIBULUM Fennica.
Praesertim in agro Republican praesidentiale candidatos fere constanter invadit Barack Obama alienis consiliis ab neoconservative iuris Tentatio probatur resisti uti praeses scriptor omisit conatur at PACIFICUS in Oriente Medio et pede Cum Israël primus minister Benjamin Netanyahu, CLAVA ut.
"In tribus annis et officii [President Obama] non inveni tempora visit Israel, noster, nostra, socium populi in regionem nostram communicat bona," inquit Mitt Romney qui saepe sumptus cum Obama 'iactantibus in Israel bus, "loqui in forum Coalition Washington Jewish Republican a feria VI Dignissim praesidentiale comitentur omnes candidatos. "Super triennium Obama has instead castigavit Israel," Ait illi eros.
Simul candidatos ad Republican 'critique administrationis scathing relationes cum Israel est. Administratio has "conversus ad radicals oculos caeci" et placabilis "omnis radicitus Islamist 'Rick Santorum nuntiavit forum. Obama nuper in Belgio legatum ad consilium suum, quod si ignis ANTISEMITISMUS oritur tensiones inter Israhel et Palaestinorum, et corripiam Defensio pro urgentibus secretarius Leon Panetta Israel 'adepto ut damnaret [negotiating] tabula "[Romney Gingrich et recentiorum dies]. Administratio est «SIMPLEX, misguided, superbos" [Rick Perry] ad ultimum consilium quod sit initium rem esse pre-MCMLXVII terminos terrae swaps conueniret. Obama est "FOEDUS" et turpe "for Nicolas Sarkozy President videtur convenire cum Galli dicunt Netanyahu excepta est scriptor" mendax "[Gingrich iterum].
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Obama est praeses belli defendit staunchly The record in Israel. In colloquium, Alan Solow a arcu nisl fautor et illud sedem Conferentiae Praesides Major American Jewish mauris defendit praeses scriptor testimonium in Israel ponitur in enuntiationibus de Israël principes dicentes relationem inter eros et Israel, ut valens ut eo fortius, aut etiam negare et semper been.He Obama has "ausi Palaestino liners durus," quod dicitur Romney an «Nihil autem placet" Islamists, et thugs hooligans, ut dictum Santorum. "Etiam ille, qui aliquo appeaser praeposterum est," inquit Solow.
Republican praesidentiale Solow accusavit utendi catchphrases pro candidatorum solutiones quaestionum proponendo in Oriente Medio. "Et praesente visione sua," inquit Solow.
Primus casus in hoc saepe Nuance cursus Sticker permutationum cale-bellorum civilium, et pauci sunt nuanced aut alienigenas adipiscing elit grammaticus impletum landmines Israhel Palaestino quam pugna. Certe ipse rem suam Obama hyperbolen vindicant fundraiser in ultima septimana, scilicet «hoc ministerium fecit magis quam antea in terminos Israel securitas publica administrata est. '
Iacobus Earl Carter Obama videbatur oblivisci actu leo castris pax inter Israhel et David Aegyptum HW Bush George Oslo posuerit pro RADIX secundum MCMXCI in culmine Madrid, Ricardus Nixon periculose depleted armamentario quod erat de tempore in tempore contritos Frigus resupply Israel in bellum MCMLXXIII Arab-Israelensis belli recognovit Harry Truman primo statu suo consilio contra Israel State Department multa socii. Obama quoque backers comments by Romney occupavit, Gingrich ac sapien at ipsum ut recalibrate externis auxiliis omnibus terris "adipiscing", proponens unconvincingly imperil fore ut ex eius positione Israel n. I recipiens US externa auxilia.
Tamen Rhetoricae positioning of candidates in praesidentiale major alienigenas ipsum dolor sit amet praesertim si post Oval Office occupat. Et Republican candidatos 'critique de Obama administration consiliis super Israel suadet adire et worldview a coherent. In hac Civitatum Foederatarum vitandum deponendi sua pace agere quam porttitor enim vel sententiam suam rem initium [MCMLXVII terminos existens cum aliquot sedes swaps] quod assumptum a principibus Israël, et in secreto loquitur US Donec a quam. Non Curabitur semper Israel sibi in expansionem sedes occupasse East West Bank et Jerusalem, illegal sub iure gentium, quamvis publice professus fuit consilium Republican Democratic administrationes et reversus decades. Ad Candidam Casam caderent aliqua simulatione rei mediator esse in certamine et tellus PURE civitatem Israelis Iudaeam ut Iunctus Civitas est "socius in capite et ejus regionis caput est civitas Ierusalem indivisum.
"Nos Tel Aviv legationem misit Hierosolymam" Gingrich nuntiavit Iudaeis Republican Coalition in foro candidati, magno plausu. "Ego rogabo [IL legatus prior Bush administration XLIII] John Bolton esse Secretarius Status"
Quin Republican candidatos 'Israhel accedite ad proelium Palaestino sonorum notas, ut sic accepta a Georgio W. Bush administration integrum fere septem annis. Data nunc monebant praevalens priorum Bush administration neoconservatives Republican praesidentiale stipendiorum, nota policy lineamenta sunt omnino ignotam. Prope decennio post pacem stalled rem vero etiam accessus et Bush administratione relicta tandem conversam scilicet Israël vituperandis sedes ad aggressively urgeat utrinque a negotiated agere in Annapolis in culmine MMVII.
Aliquam congue 'comments denuntiet Republican sub administratione, ut propius inter alignment Washington cornu Israël, et ius imperii, et elegantes, aditus ad pacem magis laissez processus daretur a casu. Utrum in pace decennium lost via ducat ad alterum, et porro in Israel separati habeant aetate Arabica ver restat videre.
In praesidentiale American politicis inuoluunt te in Israël est vexillum brainer nulla. Interest enim virum sortiti corpora sustentant Israel, American Jewish electorum, magna orci auctor donationibus, et suffragium in potentia LIBRO battleground key ut dicit Florus, diam et ante. Israel fidelitatem lusus ex parte cum status evangelici Christiani back theologiae Judaicae, et qui potest facere ut res in primo statu, Iowa censentium et elit. Test for litmus tergum fortis Israel veluti coetus in validus VESTIBULUM Fennica.
Praesertim in agro Republican praesidentiale candidatos fere constanter invadit Barack Obama alienis consiliis ab neoconservative iuris Tentatio probatur resisti uti praeses scriptor omisit conatur at PACIFICUS in Oriente Medio et pede Cum Israël primus minister Benjamin Netanyahu, CLAVA ut.
"In tribus annis et officii [President Obama] non inveni tempora visit Israel, noster, nostra, socium populi in regionem nostram communicat bona," inquit Mitt Romney qui saepe sumptus cum Obama 'iactantibus in Israel bus, "loqui in forum Coalition Washington Jewish Republican a feria VI Dignissim praesidentiale comitentur omnes candidatos. "Super triennium Obama has instead castigavit Israel," Ait illi eros.
Simul candidatos ad Republican 'critique administrationis scathing relationes cum Israel est. Administratio has "conversus ad radicals oculos caeci" et placabilis "omnis radicitus Islamist 'Rick Santorum nuntiavit forum. Obama nuper in Belgio legatum ad consilium suum, quod si ignis ANTISEMITISMUS oritur tensiones inter Israhel et Palaestinorum, et corripiam Defensio pro urgentibus secretarius Leon Panetta Israel 'adepto ut damnaret [negotiating] tabula "[Romney Gingrich et recentiorum dies]. Administratio est «SIMPLEX, misguided, superbos" [Rick Perry] ad ultimum consilium quod sit initium rem esse pre-MCMLXVII terminos terrae swaps conueniret. Obama est "FOEDUS" et turpe "for Nicolas Sarkozy President videtur convenire cum Galli dicunt Netanyahu excepta est scriptor" mendax "[Gingrich iterum].
LIBELLUS DE CIVILIS MORE:
Plegii Perry Support Israhel
Record Obama est Israhel
Up Mitt Romney dolor in Israel New York
Republican praesidentiale Solow accusavit utendi catchphrases pro candidatorum solutiones quaestionum proponendo in Oriente Medio. "Et praesente visione sua," inquit Solow.
Primus casus in hoc saepe Nuance cursus Sticker permutationum cale-bellorum civilium, et pauci sunt nuanced aut alienigenas adipiscing elit grammaticus impletum landmines Israhel Palaestino quam pugna. Certe ipse rem suam Obama hyperbolen vindicant fundraiser in ultima septimana, scilicet «hoc ministerium fecit magis quam antea in terminos Israel securitas publica administrata est. '
Iacobus Earl Carter Obama videbatur oblivisci actu leo castris pax inter Israhel et David Aegyptum HW Bush George Oslo posuerit pro RADIX secundum MCMXCI in culmine Madrid, Ricardus Nixon periculose depleted armamentario quod erat de tempore in tempore contritos Frigus resupply Israel in bellum MCMLXXIII Arab-Israelensis belli recognovit Harry Truman primo statu suo consilio contra Israel State Department multa socii. Obama quoque backers comments by Romney occupavit, Gingrich ac sapien at ipsum ut recalibrate externis auxiliis omnibus terris "adipiscing", proponens unconvincingly imperil fore ut ex eius positione Israel n. I recipiens US externa auxilia.
Tamen Rhetoricae positioning of candidates in praesidentiale major alienigenas ipsum dolor sit amet praesertim si post Oval Office occupat. Et Republican candidatos 'critique de Obama administration consiliis super Israel suadet adire et worldview a coherent. In hac Civitatum Foederatarum vitandum deponendi sua pace agere quam porttitor enim vel sententiam suam rem initium [MCMLXVII terminos existens cum aliquot sedes swaps] quod assumptum a principibus Israël, et in secreto loquitur US Donec a quam. Non Curabitur semper Israel sibi in expansionem sedes occupasse East West Bank et Jerusalem, illegal sub iure gentium, quamvis publice professus fuit consilium Republican Democratic administrationes et reversus decades. Ad Candidam Casam caderent aliqua simulatione rei mediator esse in certamine et tellus PURE civitatem Israelis Iudaeam ut Iunctus Civitas est "socius in capite et ejus regionis caput est civitas Ierusalem indivisum.
"Nos Tel Aviv legationem misit Hierosolymam" Gingrich nuntiavit Iudaeis Republican Coalition in foro candidati, magno plausu. "Ego rogabo [IL legatus prior Bush administration XLIII] John Bolton esse Secretarius Status"
Quin Republican candidatos 'Israhel accedite ad proelium Palaestino sonorum notas, ut sic accepta a Georgio W. Bush administration integrum fere septem annis. Data nunc monebant praevalens priorum Bush administration neoconservatives Republican praesidentiale stipendiorum, nota policy lineamenta sunt omnino ignotam. Prope decennio post pacem stalled rem vero etiam accessus et Bush administratione relicta tandem conversam scilicet Israël vituperandis sedes ad aggressively urgeat utrinque a negotiated agere in Annapolis in culmine MMVII.
Aliquam congue 'comments denuntiet Republican sub administratione, ut propius inter alignment Washington cornu Israël, et ius imperii, et elegantes, aditus ad pacem magis laissez processus daretur a casu. Utrum in pace decennium lost via ducat ad alterum, et porro in Israel separati habeant aetate Arabica ver restat videre.
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Why Israel Plays Such a Big Role in U.S. Presidential Races
By James KitfieldDec 8 2011, 10:26 AM ET 7
Republican candidates are striving to show their love for Israel, but it's about more than just the Jewish voteBarack Obama meets Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the United Nations in September 2011 / Reuters
In American presidential politics, wrapping yourself in the Israeli flag is a no-brainer. Stalwart support for Israel is important for many American-Jewish voters, an important source of campaign donations, and a potential swing vote in key battleground states such as Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. Fealty to Israel plays well with evangelical Christians who back the Jewish state largely out of theology, and who can make the difference in early-voting states like Iowa and South Carolina. Strong backing of Israel is viewed as a litmus test for powerful lobby groups in Washington.
Especially for a field of Republican presidential candidates who are almost uniformly attacking Barack Obama's foreign policy from the neoconservative right, the temptation has proven irresistible to use the president's failed attempts at peacemaking in the Middle East, and frosty relations with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as a cudgel.
"Three years in office and [President Obama] hasn't found time to visit Israel, our friend, our ally, the nation in the region that shares our values," said Mitt Romney, who often charges Obama with "throwing Israel under the bus," speaking on Wednesday at a Republican Jewish Coalition forum in Washington attended by all six GOP presidential candidates. "Over the last three years, Obama has instead chastened Israel," the former Massachusetts governor said.
Taken together, the Republican candidates' critique of the administration's relations with Israel has been scathing. The administration has "turned a blind eye towards radicals" and appeased "every radical Islamist," Rick Santorum told the forum. Obama should fire his ambassador to Belgium for recently suggesting that some anti-Semitism stems from tensions between Israel and the Palestinians, and chastise Defense Secretary Leon Panetta for urging Israel to "get to the damn [negotiating] table" [Romney and Gingrich in recent days]. The administration was "naïve, misguided, arrogant" [Rick Perry] for suggesting last May that the starting point for negotiations should be the pre-1967 borders with agreed upon land swaps. Obama was "disgusting" and disgraceful" for seeming to agree with French President Nicolas Sarkozy's overheard claim that Netanyahu is a "liar" [Gingrich again].
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The Obama campaign staunchly defended the president's record toward Israel. In an interview, Alan Solow, a longtime Obama supporter and the former chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, defended the president's record on Israel and pointed to statements from Israeli officials saying the relationship between the United States and Israel is as strong as or even stronger than it's ever been.He also denied that Obama has "emboldened Palestinian hard-liners," as Romney said, or "done nothing but appease" Islamists, thugs and hooligans, as Santorum said. "To suggest that he's some kind of appeaser is preposterous," Solow said.
Solow accused the Republican presidential candidates of using catchphrases instead of proposing solutions to the problems in the Middle East. "They present no vision of their own," Solow said.
Nuance is often the first casualty in the bumper-sticker exchanges of heated political campaigns, and few foreign-policy issues are more nuanced or filled with linguistic landmines than the Israel-Palestinian conflict. Certainly, Obama himself has engaged in his own hyperbole, claiming at a fundraiser last week, for instance, that "this administration has done more in terms of the security of Israel than any previous administration."
Obama seemed to forget that Jimmy Carter actually forged the Camp David peace treaty between Israel and Egypt; George H.W. Bush laid the groundwork for the Oslo Accords at the 1991 Madrid Summit; Richard Nixon dangerously depleted the U.S. arsenal of tanks at a critical moment in the Cold War to resupply Israel during the 1973 Arab-Israeli war; and Harry Truman first recognized the state of Israel against the advice of his own State Department and many allies. Obama backers have also seized on comments by Romney, Gingrich, and Perry that they would recalibrate foreign aid for all countries starting at "zero," suggesting unconvincingly that that would imperil Israel's position as the No. 1 recipient of U.S. foreign aid.
Yet the rhetoric and positioning of presidential candidates on major foreign-policy issues matter, especially if that candidate later occupies the Oval Office. And the Republican candidates' critique of the Obama administration's policy on Israel suggests a coherent approach and worldview. In this view, the United States should avoid laying down its own parameters for a possible peace deal or even suggest a starting point for negotiations [1967 borders, with swaps for some existing settlements] that has been assumed by U.S. and Israeli leaders in private talks for more than a decade. It should not pressure Israel on its continued expansion of settlements in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, which are illegal under international law, even though this has been the publicly professed policy of Republican and Democratic administrations going back decades. The White House should drop any pretense of being an objective mediator in the dispute, and reaffirm unequivocally that the Jewish state of Israel is the United States' chief ally in the region and its capital is the undivided city of Jerusalem.
"We will send the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem," Gingrich told the Republican Jewish Coalition's candidate forum, to great applause. "I will ask [former Bush 43 administration U.N. ambassador] John Bolton to be secretary of State!"
Indeed, if the Republican candidates' approach to the Israel-Palestinian conflict sounds familiar, it should: It was adopted nearly in its entirety by the George W. Bush administration for seven years. Given the preponderance of former Bush administration neoconservatives now advising Republican presidential campaigns, the familiar policy outlines are not altogether a surprise. After nearly a decade of stalled peace negotiations, however, even the Bush administration eventually abandoned the approach and reversed course, criticizing Israeli settlements and pressing both sides aggressively to reach a negotiated deal at the Annapolis Summit in 2007.
Recent candidates' comments suggest that under a Republican administration, that closer alignment between Washington and a right-wing Israeli government, and a more laissez-faire approach to the peace process, would be given a second chance. Whether it would lead to another lost decade in the peace process, and further isolation of Israel in an era of the Arab Spring, remains to be seen.
In American presidential politics, wrapping yourself in the Israeli flag is a no-brainer. Stalwart support for Israel is important for many American-Jewish voters, an important source of campaign donations, and a potential swing vote in key battleground states such as Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. Fealty to Israel plays well with evangelical Christians who back the Jewish state largely out of theology, and who can make the difference in early-voting states like Iowa and South Carolina. Strong backing of Israel is viewed as a litmus test for powerful lobby groups in Washington.
Especially for a field of Republican presidential candidates who are almost uniformly attacking Barack Obama's foreign policy from the neoconservative right, the temptation has proven irresistible to use the president's failed attempts at peacemaking in the Middle East, and frosty relations with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as a cudgel.
"Three years in office and [President Obama] hasn't found time to visit Israel, our friend, our ally, the nation in the region that shares our values," said Mitt Romney, who often charges Obama with "throwing Israel under the bus," speaking on Wednesday at a Republican Jewish Coalition forum in Washington attended by all six GOP presidential candidates. "Over the last three years, Obama has instead chastened Israel," the former Massachusetts governor said.
Taken together, the Republican candidates' critique of the administration's relations with Israel has been scathing. The administration has "turned a blind eye towards radicals" and appeased "every radical Islamist," Rick Santorum told the forum. Obama should fire his ambassador to Belgium for recently suggesting that some anti-Semitism stems from tensions between Israel and the Palestinians, and chastise Defense Secretary Leon Panetta for urging Israel to "get to the damn [negotiating] table" [Romney and Gingrich in recent days]. The administration was "naïve, misguided, arrogant" [Rick Perry] for suggesting last May that the starting point for negotiations should be the pre-1967 borders with agreed upon land swaps. Obama was "disgusting" and disgraceful" for seeming to agree with French President Nicolas Sarkozy's overheard claim that Netanyahu is a "liar" [Gingrich again].
MORE FROM NATIONAL JOURNAL:
Perry Pledges Support to Israel
Obama's Record with Israel
Mitt Romney Talks Up Israel in New York
Solow accused the Republican presidential candidates of using catchphrases instead of proposing solutions to the problems in the Middle East. "They present no vision of their own," Solow said.
Nuance is often the first casualty in the bumper-sticker exchanges of heated political campaigns, and few foreign-policy issues are more nuanced or filled with linguistic landmines than the Israel-Palestinian conflict. Certainly, Obama himself has engaged in his own hyperbole, claiming at a fundraiser last week, for instance, that "this administration has done more in terms of the security of Israel than any previous administration."
Obama seemed to forget that Jimmy Carter actually forged the Camp David peace treaty between Israel and Egypt; George H.W. Bush laid the groundwork for the Oslo Accords at the 1991 Madrid Summit; Richard Nixon dangerously depleted the U.S. arsenal of tanks at a critical moment in the Cold War to resupply Israel during the 1973 Arab-Israeli war; and Harry Truman first recognized the state of Israel against the advice of his own State Department and many allies. Obama backers have also seized on comments by Romney, Gingrich, and Perry that they would recalibrate foreign aid for all countries starting at "zero," suggesting unconvincingly that that would imperil Israel's position as the No. 1 recipient of U.S. foreign aid.
Yet the rhetoric and positioning of presidential candidates on major foreign-policy issues matter, especially if that candidate later occupies the Oval Office. And the Republican candidates' critique of the Obama administration's policy on Israel suggests a coherent approach and worldview. In this view, the United States should avoid laying down its own parameters for a possible peace deal or even suggest a starting point for negotiations [1967 borders, with swaps for some existing settlements] that has been assumed by U.S. and Israeli leaders in private talks for more than a decade. It should not pressure Israel on its continued expansion of settlements in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, which are illegal under international law, even though this has been the publicly professed policy of Republican and Democratic administrations going back decades. The White House should drop any pretense of being an objective mediator in the dispute, and reaffirm unequivocally that the Jewish state of Israel is the United States' chief ally in the region and its capital is the undivided city of Jerusalem.
"We will send the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem," Gingrich told the Republican Jewish Coalition's candidate forum, to great applause. "I will ask [former Bush 43 administration U.N. ambassador] John Bolton to be secretary of State!"
Indeed, if the Republican candidates' approach to the Israel-Palestinian conflict sounds familiar, it should: It was adopted nearly in its entirety by the George W. Bush administration for seven years. Given the preponderance of former Bush administration neoconservatives now advising Republican presidential campaigns, the familiar policy outlines are not altogether a surprise. After nearly a decade of stalled peace negotiations, however, even the Bush administration eventually abandoned the approach and reversed course, criticizing Israeli settlements and pressing both sides aggressively to reach a negotiated deal at the Annapolis Summit in 2007.
Recent candidates' comments suggest that under a Republican administration, that closer alignment between Washington and a right-wing Israeli government, and a more laissez-faire approach to the peace process, would be given a second chance. Whether it would lead to another lost decade in the peace process, and further isolation of Israel in an era of the Arab Spring, remains to be seen.
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warmonkey 1 day agoIt is an outrage that supporting the interests of another Nation , any other nation , should be a requirment to be the President of the USA.How did this happen and how can we fix it?
Israel [does not= ]Jews. All Israelis are not Jews- All Jews are not Israelis.
How did it become logic that support of Israel means support of the Jewish people?
Hasbara , that's how.
The religious fundamentalists who drive policy in Iran are EVIL, Right?
But the religious fundamentalists here in the US and in Israel who do the same are AWESOME, Right?
go4dan0 1 day agoISRAEL IS VIOLATING INTERNATIONAL LAW AND HAS SOME 200 NUCLEAR WARHEADS AND REFUSES TO SIGN THE NUCLEAR NONPROLIFERATION TREATY.- It is part of the conversation because AIPAC has almost every politician in both parties on their payroll ie Campaign Contributions which will only increase with the Citizens United decision. It also has to do with white supremacy with Israel being the only majority white nation in a sea of brown people. Just like Reagan supported apartheid South Africa, many politicians today support apartheid Israel. It is also hypocritical for Republicans like Newt Gingrich and others who want to cut off Americans from "entitlement" programs while pledging entitlements for Israel. They are also quick to play the race card and scream antisemitism to anyone who questions our policies towards Israel.
- First - Israel is NOT the " No. 1 recipient of U.S. foreign aid". That should be Iraq and Afganistan. Trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives.
Starting during the Vietnam war, Israel rightly claims that not one American soldier risks his life in defending Israel. That is a big point. Second point is that much of the military aid money from the US to Israel is spent right back in the US buying American goods.
Second - in response to "warmonkey" - why are you so "outraged" for "supporting the interests of another Nation"? Huh? Response 1 is that we support the interests of other nations when it is in line with US interests. Response 2 is that the USA is a democracy and support of Israel is the opinion of the overwhelming vast majority of its citizens. Everything else you say is just un-nuanced propaganda. If you do not like the US democracy then I suggest you go live in Iran.
Response to "go4dan0" is simple. Again you are wrong in so many ways. First, the armistice lines of 1949 were not recognized as borders by any nation. If and when the Arabs return to the negotiation table and resolve the borders and recognize the existence of Israel, then you can claim "illegal". In Arab eyes, the mere existence of Israel is "illegal". And Israel has vowed not to be the first to introduce nuclear weapons to the region, so they will do so in response to another nation doing so first.
And Mr Reid brings the old "apartheid" accusation - this falsehood has been rebuffed many times.
It has been shown many times that Israel is the ONLY full democracy in the region, with many Arab and Druse and other citizens who vote and have full rights. I don't want to get into a digression here, but this is also an accusation with no merit.
If Israel is an "apartheid" then what is Saudi Arabia or Iran?
saadasim 7 hours ago in reply to Baruch AttaOk then Israel = Iran = SA. Is that good? But even those latter two are not growing and grabbing land.STATEMENTS OF U.S. PRESIDENTSDate
Pres
Pop
Statement
4/12/1980
Carter
61500
The settlements are not legal and are an impediment to peace
9/1/1982
Reagan
106595
A settlements freeze would help peace process. Settlement activity is in
no way necessary for the security of Israel
3/3/1990
Bush
227500
We do not believe there should be new settlements in the West Bank or in
East Jerusalem
1/7/2001
Clinton
387859
The settlements are inconsistent with the Oslo commitment
4/4/2002
Bush II
414,119
Israeli settlement activity in occupied territories must stop, and the
occupation must end through withdrawal to secure and recognized boundaries,
consistent with United Nations Resolutions 242 and 338.
5/18/2010
Obama
479,500
Settlements have to be stopped in order for us to move forward.
We give
money, Israel gives us the finger!
carlosportillo 1 day agoIt's not useful to regret our actual administration. Every single administration has done what its leaders believed right, doesn't matter if we think they were wrong.
The reality here is that both, republicans and democrats, are selling their images to us, and we have to decide between their offers and hear their recriminations and accusations. The relation US-Israel don't pursuit a democratic goal. For what I have read above, US is backs a Theocratic state of Israel. Republicans and democrats bring this Israeli issue on the table with its religion implications and toss aside argues as the nuclear and apartheid, palestinians and inequality. They talk about a biblical Jerusalem, a paradigm of an eschatological point of view. I think thats why Israel is so important for the political campaign, not only for the money... It's a religion issue.
carlosportillo 1 day agoYou really have been touched by the comments!! You take it very personal and thats good, I think. But democracy as you call it's not a real democracy indeed. It's only to elect who will administrate for four years! A real democracy is the will of the majority for all issues. Maybe it's an utopia or maybe it isn't possible because take a lot of work. I don't know but that is democracy from my point of view. You can say others "if you don't like go live Iran", sure you can, You did. But say what you think it's a right and you have to live with it. With the other people's opinions. And by the way, it's Iran really such an evil?
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Israel [= non] Judaeorum. All Israelis non omnes Iudaei non sunt Iudaei Israelis.
Unde fit quod logica sit amet felis Iudaici populi Israel?
Hasbara ut 'quam.
Religiosus qui fundamentalists abigo in policy Iran mali sunt, recta?
Sed religiosi qui fundamentalists hic erat et in eadem HORRENDUS Israel, Vox?
Donec in Vietnamia bellum Israel non recte ponit vitam suam in periculum American miles defendere Israel. Ut a arcu ipsum. Secundum est quod tantum pecuniae a velit militare auxilium back to Israel impenditur ius in bonis American molestie lacus.
II - respondentem "warmonkey -" quid inde "laesis" for "navitas re alia gens"? Huh? I Responsum est quod cum in subsidium aliarum nationum commodis cum linea US causa. Response II USA quod democratia est et subsidio Israel sententiam plurium civium ingens obruat. Nam dicis sicut un-nuanced augue. Si vos dont 'innutum vos ergo sicut democratia US Irania vivunt.
Response to "go4dan0 'simplex. Erras etiam tot modis. Primo, quia tempus indutiarum lineas MCMXLIX non agnoscere, si terminos gentis. Arabes, si redire in legatione et mensam et agnoscit esse resolvendam finibus Israel, et tunc potest dici "illegal." In Arab oculis nuda est esse Israel "illegal." Et vovit Israel non primusque nuclear tela in partes, ut alia gens sic faciet in responsione ad primum.
Et Mr Reid affert vetus "apartheid" crimen - rebuffed hoc falsum est multoties.
Sed ut pluries ostensum est Israhel in regione plena democratia, cum multis aliis Arabum et Druse plena et legitima iura et civium suffragiis. Nolo hic, ut in digressione, sed etiam meritum crimina.
Si Israel "apartheid" Arabia Saudiana aut quid Iran?
Pres
Pop
Statement
4/12/1980
Carter
(LXI)D
De sedibus, et non legalis impedit pax
9/1/1982
Reagan
(CVI)DXCV
A pace adiuvaret CONGELASCO sedes est. Actio in sedes
securitatem non opus Israel
3/3/1990
Bush
(CCXXVII)D
Integer non erat nec turpis sit novas sedes in Occidente
East Jerusalem
1/7/2001
Clinton
(CCCLXXXVII)DCCCLIX
De sedibus sunt repugnat commitment Oslo
4/4/2002
Bush II
414.119
Occupatus est in finibus Israël stare ante actionem, et
operis finem per recessum procuranda recognoscitur terminos
Gentium Coniunctarum consiliis et consentaneum CCXLII CCCXXXVIII.
5/18/2010
Obama
479.500
Sedes habere in ordine ad nos moueat medium impediebat.
Damus
pecuniam dat digito Israel!
Veritas est utrumque, et republicans democrats sunt imagines earum vendere, nos have audire et iudicare inter offers criminibusque querimonias. Relatio de studio popularis US-Israel non felis. Legi enim supra quod erat a tergo Theocratic statum Israel. Et semen Israël Republicans democrats introducetis super mensam eius religio retro redundat, sic argumentatur in sublime iactare et nuclear apartheid, Palaestinorum, et inaequale. Ut fama biblicum Ierusalem de REGULA eschatologica parte. Puto Israel Vestibulum ante bellum quidem tantopere valet ad politicam, non solum pecuniae est religio ... exitum.